行動裝置 Tegra K1 秒殺 Tegra 4、Apple A7以及Intel內顯

[dogkoon]

說好的超越XBOX360和PS3呢???
Intel HD4000系列超越XBOX360 and PS3??? 我不相信...;face12;

通常遊戲機對於軟硬體優化是可以到極緻的，
比如說XBOX一代，當時用的GPU是Gforce ti 500 跟Gforce ti 4200的產物，
但是當時的ti 4600跟之後的fx 5900都達不到Xbox畫面的水準跟流暢度，
看遊戲機的規格來比較PC的規格是不準的~

 

[LESIMS]

NVIDIA的 PPT 總是比實體產品給我們更大的驚奇...

 

[Patrick12345]

ps3的gpu只有移動版g70的能力,xbox360只有hd2000精簡版的能力
不用想的太強,intel hd4000肯定贏過它們

不可能啊... 單看填圖率
XB360 / PS3仍是贏過HD4000許多...

X-Box 360

Triangle Setup
Xbox 360 - 500 Million Triangles/sec
PS3 - 250 Million Triangles/sec

Vertex Shader Processing
Xbox 360 - 6.0 Billion Vertices/sec (using all 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 2.0 Billion Vertices/sec (using only 16 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 1.5 Billion Vertices/sec (using only 12 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 1.0 Billion Vertices/sec (using only 8 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
PS3 - 1.0 Billion Vertices/sec

Filtered Texture Fetch
Xbox 360 - 8.0 Billion Texels/sec
PS3 - 12.0 Billion Texels/sec

Vertex Texture Fetch
Xbox 360 - 8.0 Billion Texels/sec
PS3 - 4.0 Billion Texels/sec

Pixel Shader Processing with 16 Filtered Texels Per Cycle (Pixel ALU x Clock)
Xbox 360 - 24.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using all 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 20.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 40 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 18.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 36 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 16.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 32 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
PS3 - 16.0 Billion Pixels/sec

Pixel Shader Processing without Textures (Pixel ALU x Clock)
Xbox 360 - 24.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using all 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 20.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 40 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 18.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 36 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 16.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 32 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
PS3 - 24.0 Billion Pixels/sec

Multisampled Fill Rate
Xbox 360 - 16.0 Billion Samples/sec (8 ROPS x 4 Samples x 500MHz)
PS3 - 8.0 Billion Samples/sec (8 ROPS x 2 Samples x 500MHz)

Pixel Fill Rate with 4x Multisampled Anti-Aliasing
Xbox 360 - 4.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 4 Samples x 500MHz / 4)
PS3 - 2.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 2 Samples x 500MHz / 4)

Pixel Fill Rate without Anti-Aliasing
Xbox 360 - 4.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 500MHz)
PS3 - 4.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 500MHz)

Frame Buffer Bandwidth
Xbox 360 - 256.0 GB/sec (dedicated for frame buffer rendering)
PS3 - 20.8 GB/sec (shared with other graphics data: textures and vertices)
PS3 - 10.8 GB/sec (with 10.0 GB/sec subtracted for textures and vertices)
PS3 - 8.4 GB/sec (with 12.4 GB/sec subtracted for textures and vertices)

Texture/Vertex Memory Bandwidth
Xbox 360 - 22.4 GB/sec (shared with CPU)
Xbox 360 - 14.4 GB/sec (with 8.0 GB/sec subtracted for CPU)
Xbox 360 - 12.4 GB/sec (with 10.0 GB/sec subtracted for CPU)
PS3 - 20.8 GB/sec (shared with frame buffer)
PS3 - 10.8 GB/sec (with 10.0 GB/sec subtracted for frame buffer)
PS3 - 8.4 GB/sec (with 12.4 GB/sec subtracted for frame buffer)

Shader Model
Xbox 360 - Shader Model 3.0+ / Unified Shader Architecture
PS3 - Shader Model 3.0 / Discrete Shader Architecture

單就Vertex / Pixel Shader的能力... PS3/XB360仍然是接近HD4000的10倍強...
即便架構較老舊... 整體的運算能力仍然是強許多(電晶體數量也多許多)
Intel HD4000打打mobile系列產品還可以... PS3/XB360的GPU可是"接近"當年旗艦的桌上型版本的...
當年的旗艦, 拿來打目前的NB用GPU, 仍然是遊刃有餘...

目前手上還有一張ATI R4670, 跑遊戲時, 效能比起Intel HD4000系列(我的NB)好上不少...
但R4670也仍然沒有贏過當年的XB360的GPU阿...
說HD2000... 差太遠了啦~~

 

[hgman]

不可能啊... 單看填圖率
XB360 / PS3仍是贏過HD4000許多...

X-Box 360

Triangle Setup
Xbox 360 - 500 Million Triangles/sec
PS3 - 250 Million Triangles/sec

Vertex Shader Processing
Xbox 360 - 6.0 Billion Vertices/sec (using all 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 2.0 Billion Vertices/sec (using only 16 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 1.5 Billion Vertices/sec (using only 12 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 1.0 Billion Vertices/sec (using only 8 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
PS3 - 1.0 Billion Vertices/sec

Filtered Texture Fetch
Xbox 360 - 8.0 Billion Texels/sec
PS3 - 12.0 Billion Texels/sec

Vertex Texture Fetch
Xbox 360 - 8.0 Billion Texels/sec
PS3 - 4.0 Billion Texels/sec

Pixel Shader Processing with 16 Filtered Texels Per Cycle (Pixel ALU x Clock)
Xbox 360 - 24.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using all 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 20.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 40 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 18.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 36 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 16.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 32 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
PS3 - 16.0 Billion Pixels/sec

Pixel Shader Processing without Textures (Pixel ALU x Clock)
Xbox 360 - 24.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using all 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 20.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 40 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 18.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 36 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
Xbox 360 - 16.0 Billion Pixels/sec (using 32 of the 48 Unified Pipelines)
PS3 - 24.0 Billion Pixels/sec

Multisampled Fill Rate
Xbox 360 - 16.0 Billion Samples/sec (8 ROPS x 4 Samples x 500MHz)
PS3 - 8.0 Billion Samples/sec (8 ROPS x 2 Samples x 500MHz)

Pixel Fill Rate with 4x Multisampled Anti-Aliasing
Xbox 360 - 4.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 4 Samples x 500MHz / 4)
PS3 - 2.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 2 Samples x 500MHz / 4)

Pixel Fill Rate without Anti-Aliasing
Xbox 360 - 4.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 500MHz)
PS3 - 4.0 Billion Pixels/sec (8 ROPS x 500MHz)

Frame Buffer Bandwidth
Xbox 360 - 256.0 GB/sec (dedicated for frame buffer rendering)
PS3 - 20.8 GB/sec (shared with other graphics data: textures and vertices)
PS3 - 10.8 GB/sec (with 10.0 GB/sec subtracted for textures and vertices)
PS3 - 8.4 GB/sec (with 12.4 GB/sec subtracted for textures and vertices)

Texture/Vertex Memory Bandwidth
Xbox 360 - 22.4 GB/sec (shared with CPU)
Xbox 360 - 14.4 GB/sec (with 8.0 GB/sec subtracted for CPU)
Xbox 360 - 12.4 GB/sec (with 10.0 GB/sec subtracted for CPU)
PS3 - 20.8 GB/sec (shared with frame buffer)
PS3 - 10.8 GB/sec (with 10.0 GB/sec subtracted for frame buffer)
PS3 - 8.4 GB/sec (with 12.4 GB/sec subtracted for frame buffer)

Shader Model
Xbox 360 - Shader Model 3.0+ / Unified Shader Architecture
PS3 - Shader Model 3.0 / Discrete Shader Architecture

單就Vertex / Pixel Shader的能力... PS3/XB360仍然是接近HD4000的10倍強...
即便架構較老舊... 整體的運算能力仍然是強許多(電晶體數量也多許多)
Intel HD4000打打mobile系列產品還可以... PS3/XB360的GPU可是"接近"當年旗艦的桌上型版本的...
當年的旗艦, 拿來打目前的NB用GPU, 仍然是遊刃有餘...

目前手上還有一張ATI R4670, 跑遊戲時, 效能比起Intel HD4000系列(我的NB)好上不少...
但R4670也仍然沒有贏過當年的XB360的GPU阿...
說HD2000... 差太遠了啦~~

HD4000的確比我想的弱很多,看來我太高估intel
不過xbox360的c1的確只是hd2000的精簡版,當時ati也只有hd2000吧
至於hd4670有沒有強於c1,gpuz的資料庫顯示是有的,而且強上很多.

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/234/radeon-hd-4670.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/1919/xbox-360-gpu.html

 

[Patrick12345]

HD4000的確比我想的弱很多,看來我太高估intel
不過xbox360的c1的確只是hd2000的精簡版,當時ati也只有hd2000吧
至於hd4670有沒有強於c1,gpuz的資料庫顯示是有的,而且強上很多.

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/234/radeon-hd-4670.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/1919/xbox-360-gpu.html

如果你是要拿ATI 自己當年的Radeon 2000/3000系列來比的話...
基本上, 也大概只有2900和3800的性能比XBOX360強... 2600/3600基本上勉強看到車尾燈吧... (定位基本上就已經不同, Xenos是比較接近旗艦款的)
正確來說, Xenos雖然整體性能不見得可以贏過X1950XT, 但架構是比X1950更先進的, 某些性能也是超越X1950的...

至於Radeon 4700/4800系列... 當然是可以贏過XBOX360, 但不代表4600系列有辦法...

 

[hgman]

如果你是要拿ATI 自己當年的Radeon 2000/3000系列來比的話...
基本上, 也大概只有2900和3800的性能比XBOX360強... 2600/3600基本上勉強看到車尾燈吧... (定位基本上就已經不同, Xenos是比較接近旗艦款的)
正確來說, Xenos雖然整體性能不見得可以贏過X1950XT, 但架構是比X1950更先進的, 某些性能也是超越X1950的...

至於Radeon 4700/4800系列... 當然是可以贏過XBOX360, 但不代表4600系列有辦法...

4670的規模很明顯的大於c1...

 

[r3ock]

12月預購 , 1月剛拿到 T4 架構的 技嘉平版的人經過 @@

說真的 .. 這個時間點來公布..

T4 架構的商品銷售可能會受到影響吧 ( 例如 中國移動版的小米3)

如果 2~3月公布感覺才不會那麼大 ~ @@

 

[LESIMS]

原本想買台Tegra 4 還好忍住了XD
話說 我比較在乎CPU效能 不知道跟Atom 比怎樣
GPU做這麼強 可是Android 有多少遊戲能吃到這樣
一台高階的平板比 PS4 還貴...有好玩的遊戲才有吸引力阿~

 

[albart]

NVIDIA厲害就在這裡
可以騙倒一些狂人
Tegra 系列真的拿來使用時，你會發現他只是吃貨
天外有天，人外有人
嘴砲無限

 

[albart]

NV常常都先公布未上市然後說得有多強的產品，當真正上市之後，通常別人都可以比它強了.....

忠肯良言
有時候很多家夥跟著腦補Tegra
都已經病入膏肓的階段了

NV擅長的不是晶片製作
而是廠商合同;face12;